What we know about LP13 so far: a masterpost

since speculation and questions are beginning to bubble up, i've decided to compile all the information we have on the new album that's publicly available! i will try to update this post in the future as more information becomes available (or at least until we have the official details confirmed), but please feel free to offer any additional info or corrections in the comments!

(and a special thank you to cshfacts on twitter for archiving a lot of this!)

what has been confirmed:

• will has described the album as a "rock ballet" (possibly in reference to this tumblr post from 2022)
• the album's narrative follows a (currently unknown) cast of characters
• the album is loosely based off the original concept for wave goodbye to the jets (a scrapped album teased back in 2014) alongside other scrapped album concepts from over the years
• trait will likely not be returning (at least for this album cycle)
• album art is being done by cate wurtz (artist for 3, 4, mbikmb, monomania, and madlo)
• two of the working titles for tracks are "i've been wrong" and "gethsemane" (EDIT: "i've been wrong" has been scrapped, "gethsemane" is a confirmed track title)
• teased track "false life lived" has been confirmed to be scrapped from the tracklist (EDIT: received a tip that part of it now exists within a different track, so it has not been entirely scrapped. we are still getting it in some capacity)
• mixing has been finished, as of september 2024
• the album is 9 tracks total

track times have been confirmed to be:

8:10

4:30

3:46

5:26

4:12

10:54

11:12

18:52 (the new longest track in the band's discog, beating famous prophers (stars) by 2 minutes)

3:29

• the album is currently expected to release sometime next year (likely q2, so as to allow time for promotion and rollout), though an official announcement could come any time

EDIT JAN 2ND

• during a patreon livestream, seth accidentally leaked the track title "catastrophe"
• friend of the band kai (aka doghead) will be providing additional vocals on the album

EDIT JAN 30TH

• during a patreon stream, andrew accidentally leaked the track title "reality" (making all three confirmed track titles rhyme)

what is still under speculation:

• during a patreon stream, toledo accidentally referenced the 2019 demo track "stop lying to me" as "you can love again", leading some to speculate it may appear on the album under a new name
• given the aforementioned ties to wave goodbye to the jets, some have also speculated the return of other previously unreleased material, including "way down" and "waiting for the jets" (EDIT: “way down” has been confirmed to be scrapped)

will's comments from interviews:

“Everything comes together slowly, one little piece at a time until it’s done,” says Toledo. ”I’m not someone who writes a full song in one sitting.” (Brooklyn Magazine, June 2022)

This [upcoming] album is a little more, coming at it from, I guess, the normal rock perspective, the fleshing out through practice and going with what feels intuitive and clicks in as a band and working at it from that arrangement. I think [MADLO] is always going to be a strange one in our catalog, but I’m glad it’s there. (...)
I think I sort of got it out of my system. And then I went back and I said, well, I do also kind of miss the more sentimental stuff, the channeling into that teenage Phil Spector emotion. I have since been going back to tapping that being more (...)

We’re still very much in the process. We’re going to be recording through the next year. But it’s very good. We’re more involved as a band than ever. And everything that we’ve laid down for the album feels good, and it feels like some of my favorite work that I’ve ever done. I think if I’m not feeling that on an album, then it means we don’t have a lot of material that is usable. So it’s typical for me to feel like the thing that I’m working on is the best thing that I’ve worked on, but I think that this is actually the best thing that I’ve worked on.
It feels like very much a culmination of what I spent my whole life doing, which is just enjoying and participating in rock music. And I think for the first time, we kind of started figuring out… we are this band and we can use that sort of thing in the creative process as well as in the performance end of things. So we’ve just been really drumming up a lot of material this year, and we’re in the hammering out phase and it’s going quite well. (Stereogum, December 2023)